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Question 23

The ancient Indians likely used base 10 for the Hindu number system because humans have 10 fingers, and so we can use our fingers to count. But what if we had only 8 fingers? How would we be writing numbers then? What would the Hindu numerals look like if we were using base 8 instead? Base 5? Try writing the base-10 Hindu numeral 25 as base-8 and base-5 Hindu numerals, respectively. Can you write it in base-2?

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Solution

Our number system uses groups of ten. Other number systems can use different group sizes.

Step 1 — Understanding Different Number Bases

A number base tells us how many unique digits we use before we group them into the next place value. For example, base 10 uses ten digits (0-9).

If we had 8 fingers, we would likely use base 8. This means we would use 8 unique digits.

The Hindu numerals for base 8 would be: 0,1,2,3,4,5,6,70, 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7

If we had 5 fingers, we would likely use base 5. This means we would use 5 unique digits.

The Hindu numerals for base 5 would be: 0,1,2,3,40, 1, 2, 3, 4

Diagram 1

Step 2 — Converting 25 (base 10) to Base 8

To convert a number from base 10 to another base, we repeatedly divide the number by the new base. We record the remainder at each step. We then read the remainders from bottom to top to form the new number.

Let's convert the base-10 number 25 to base 8. 25÷8=3 with a remainder of 125 \div 8 = 3 \text{ with a remainder of } 1 3÷8=0 with a remainder of 33 \div 8 = 0 \text{ with a remainder of } 3

Reading the remainders from bottom to top, we get:

2510=318\boxed{25_{\text{10}} = 31_{\text{8}}}

Step 3 — Converting 25 (base 10) to Base 5

We use the same method of repeated division to convert 25 (base 10) to base 5.

Let's convert the base-10 number 25 to base 5. 25÷5=5 with a remainder of 025 \div 5 = 5 \text{ with a remainder of } 0 5÷5=1 with a remainder of 05 \div 5 = 1 \text{ with a remainder of } 0 1÷5=0 with a remainder of 11 \div 5 = 0 \text{ with a remainder of } 1

Reading the remainders from bottom to top, we get:

2510=1005\boxed{25_{\text{10}} = 100_{\text{5}}}

Step 4 — Converting 25 (base 10) to Base 2

We use the same method of repeated division to convert 25 (base 10) to base 2.

Let's convert the base-10 number 25 to base 2. 25÷2=12 with a remainder of 125 \div 2 = 12 \text{ with a remainder of } 1 12÷2=6 with a remainder of 012 \div 2 = 6 \text{ with a remainder of } 0 6÷2=3 with a remainder of 06 \div 2 = 3 \text{ with a remainder of } 0 3÷2=1 with a remainder of 13 \div 2 = 1 \text{ with a remainder of } 1 1÷2=0 with a remainder of 11 \div 2 = 0 \text{ with a remainder of } 1

Reading the remainders from bottom to top, we get:

2510=110012\boxed{25_{\text{10}} = 11001_{\text{2}}}

Answer

(i) For base 8, the numerals would have been: 0, 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7 (ii) For base 5, the numerals would have been: 0, 1, 2, 3, 4 (iii) Converting 25 (base 10):

  • In base 8: 318\mathbf{31_8}
  • In base 5: 1005\mathbf{100_5}
  • In base 2: 110012\mathbf{11001_2}

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Q21

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Q23

The ancient Indians likely used base 10 for the Hindu number system because humans have 10 fingers, and so we can use our fingers to count. But what if we had only 8 fingers? How would we be writing numbers then? What would the Hindu numerals look like if we were using base 8 instead? Base 5? Try writing the base-10 Hindu numeral 25 as base-8 and base-5 Hindu numerals, respectively. Can you write it in base-2?

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