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Question 16

Can there be a number whose representation in Egyptian numerals has one of the symbols occurring 10 or more times? Why not?

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Solution
Understand the Question
  • The Egyptian numeral system is a base-1010 additive system where distinct hieroglyphs represent powers of 1010 (1,10,100,1,0001, 10, 100, 1{,}000, etc.).
  • Numbers are represented by repeating these symbols additively.
  • Whenever a symbol reaches a count of 1010, it is grouped and replaced by a single symbol of the next higher power of 1010. Therefore, each symbol appears at most 99 times.

Step 1 · Values of Egyptian Numeral Symbols

Egyptian numerals use distinct symbols for powers of 1010:

  • Single stroke: 11
  • Heel bone: 1010
  • Coiled rope: 100100
  • Lotus flower: 1,0001{,}000
  • Pointing finger: 10,00010{,}000
  • Tadpole: 100,000100{,}000
  • Astonished man: 1,000,0001{,}000{,}000

Step 2 · Apply the Base-10 Grouping Principle

Diagram 1

In Egyptian numerals, ten identical symbols of any value are grouped and replaced by one symbol of the next higher value:

10×(single stroke)=1×(heel bone)10 \times (\text{single stroke}) = 1 \times (\text{heel bone})

10×(heel bone)=1×(coiled rope)10 \times (\text{heel bone}) = 1 \times (\text{coiled rope})

Similarly, 1010 coiled ropes are written as 11 lotus flower, 1010 lotus flowers as 11 pointing finger, and so on.

Step 3 · Determine Maximum Occurrences of a Symbol

Because any collection of 1010 identical symbols is replaced by 11 symbol of the next higher place value, no symbol ever needs to appear 1010 or more times. The maximum number of times any single symbol can appear in standard representation is 99.

Answer

No. A symbol cannot occur 1010 or more times because 1010 of any symbol are always grouped and replaced by 11 symbol of the next higher value.

Common Mistakes
  • Overlooking Grouping Rules: Assuming symbols can be repeated indefinitely without bundling groups of 1010 into the next higher symbol.
  • Exceeding the Count of 9: Writing 1010 individual strokes instead of converting them into 11 heel bone (value 1010).

More questions in FIO

Q1

Suppose you are using the number system that uses sticks to represent numbers, as in Method 1. Without using either the number names or the numerals of the Hindu number system, give a method for adding, subtracting, multiplying and dividing two numbers or two collections of sticks.

Q2

One way of extending the number system in Method 2 is by using strings with more than one letter—for example, we could use 'aa' for 27. How can you extend this system to represent all the numbers? There are many ways of doing it!

Q3

Try making your own number system.

Q4

Represent the following numbers in the Roman system.

(i) 1222 (ii) 2999 (iii) 302 (iv) 715

Q5

A group of indigenous people in a Pacific island use different sequences of number names to count different objects. Why do you think they do this?

Q6

Consider the extension of the Gumulgal number system beyond 6 in the same way of counting by 2s. Come up with ways of performing the different arithmetic operations (+,,×,÷)(+, -, \times, \div) for numbers occurring in this system, without using Hindu numerals. Use this to evaluate the following:

(i) (ukasar-ukasar-ukasar-ukasar-urapon)+(ukasar-ukasar-ukasar-urapon)(\text{ukasar-ukasar-ukasar-ukasar-urapon}) + (\text{ukasar-ukasar-ukasar-urapon})

(ii) (ukasar-ukasar-ukasar-ukasar-urapon)(ukasar-ukasar-ukasar-ukasar)(\text{ukasar-ukasar-ukasar-ukasar-urapon}) - (\text{ukasar-ukasar-ukasar-ukasar})

(iii) (ukasar-ukasar-ukasar-ukasar-urapon)×(ukasar-ukasar)(\text{ukasar-ukasar-ukasar-ukasar-urapon}) \times (\text{ukasar-ukasar})

(iv) (ukasar-ukasar-ukasar-ukasar-ukasar-ukasar-ukasar-ukasar)÷(ukasar-ukasar)(\text{ukasar-ukasar-ukasar-ukasar-ukasar-ukasar-ukasar-ukasar}) \div (\text{ukasar-ukasar})

Q7

Identify the features of the Hindu number system that make it efficient when compared to the Roman number system.

Q8

Using the ideas discussed in this section, try refining the number system you might have made earlier.

Q9

Represent the following numbers in the Egyptian system: 10458, 1023, 2660, 784, 1111, 70707.

Q10

What numbers do these numerals stand for?

Q11

Write the following numbers in the above base-5 system using the symbols in Table 2: 15, 50, 137, 293, 651.

Q12

Is there a number that cannot be represented in our base-5 system above? Why or why not?

Q13

Compute the landmark numbers of a base-7 system. In general, what are the landmark numbers of a base-nn system?

Q14

Add the following Egyptian numerals:

Q15

Add the following numerals that are in the base-5 system that we created:

Remember that in this system, 5 times a landmark number gives the next one!

Q16

Can there be a number whose representation in Egyptian numerals has one of the symbols occurring 10 or more times? Why not?

Q17

Create your own number system of base 4, and represent numbers from 1 to 16.

Q18

Give a simple rule to multiply a given number by 5 in the base-5 system that we created.

Q19

Represent the following numbers in the Mesopotamian system —

(i) 63 (ii) 132 (iii) 200 (iv) 60 (v) 3605

Q20

Why do you think the Chinese alternated between the Zong and Heng symbols? If only the Zong symbols were to be used, how would 41 be represented? Could this numeral be interpreted in any other way if there is no significant space between two successive positions?

Q21

Form a base-2 place value system using 'ukasar' and 'urapon' as the digits. Compare this system with that of the Gumulgal's.

Q22

Where in your daily lives, and in which professions, do the Hindu numerals, and 0, play an important role? How might our lives have been different if our number system and 0 hadn't been invented or conceived of?

Q23

The ancient Indians likely used base 10 for the Hindu number system because humans have 10 fingers, and so we can use our fingers to count. But what if we had only 8 fingers? How would we be writing numbers then? What would the Hindu numerals look like if we were using base 8 instead? Base 5? Try writing the base-10 Hindu numeral 25 as base-8 and base-5 Hindu numerals, respectively. Can you write it in base-2?

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