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Question 10

What could be the difficulties with using a number system that counts only in groups of a single particular size? How would you represent a number like 1345 in a system that counts only by 5s?

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Solution

Our usual number system uses place value, which makes representing numbers efficient.

Step 1 — Difficulties of a limited counting system

Let us consider a number system that counts only in groups of a single particular size. This means we only have one "denomination" or unit.

For example, if we count only by 5s, we can only represent numbers that are multiples of 5.

Numbers like 1, 2, 3, 4, 6, or 7 cannot be represented at all. This is a major limitation.

Even for numbers that are multiples of 5, the representation becomes very long.

To represent 1345, we would need 1345÷51345 \div 5 symbols.

1345÷5=2691345 \div 5 = 269

We would write 269 identical symbols, each representing a group of 5.

Reading such a long string of identical symbols is very hard.

Performing arithmetic operations like addition or subtraction would also be difficult.

Step 2 — Representing 1345 in a base-5 system

When we say a system "counts only by 5s," it usually means a base-5 number system.

In a base-5 system, place values are powers of 5.

These powers are 50=15^0=1, 51=55^1=5, 52=255^2=25, 53=1255^3=125, 54=6255^4=625, and so on.

We use only the digits 0, 1, 2, 3, and 4 in this system.

To convert 1345 (which is in base 10) to base 5, we divide by 5 repeatedly.

We note down the remainders at each step.

1345÷5=269 with a remainder of 01345 \div 5 = 269 \text{ with a remainder of } \mathbf{0}

269÷5=53 with a remainder of 4269 \div 5 = 53 \text{ with a remainder of } \mathbf{4}

53÷5=10 with a remainder of 353 \div 5 = 10 \text{ with a remainder of } \mathbf{3}

10÷5=2 with a remainder of 010 \div 5 = 2 \text{ with a remainder of } \mathbf{0}

2÷5=0 with a remainder of 22 \div 5 = 0 \text{ with a remainder of } \mathbf{2}

We read the remainders from bottom to top to get the base-5 number.

134510=203405\boxed{1345_{10} = 20340_5}

Answer

(i) Difficulties with a number system that counts only in groups of a single particular size are:

  • Many numbers cannot be represented at all (e.g., 1, 2, 3, 4 if counting only by 5s).
  • Representations for large numbers become extremely long and cumbersome.
  • It is very difficult to read, write, and understand large numbers.
  • Performing basic arithmetic operations becomes very challenging. (ii) The number 1345 in a system that counts only by 5s (base 5) is 20340.

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Q9

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Q10

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Q11

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Q13

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Q14

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